that it's fair to say that there will be a part of the al qaeda threat emanating from both western pakistan and potentially afghanistan for the foreseeable future. >> we have capabilities today that make us sort of comfortable with the use of drones, but imagine if some other entity had the capability of using drones against the united states. are we prepared for that? >> well, i think -- >> as a nation, i mean. >> yeah, i think we are prepared for that. i think it's maybe an inevitability. >> there's another kind of warfare already being waged. remember what hurricane sandy did to the power grid in lower manhattan? a cyber attack would be even more devastating. >> there have been instances of our using cyber warfare, i'm going to say our using it, the united states, israel, against iran. there are also examples of the iranians using it against us. >> there are reports that destructive cyber tools have been used against iran. i'm not either confirming or denying any part in that. but what it should tell you is that capability exists. and if it exists, it doesn't -- you know, whoever is usin